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piscator
02-11-2012, 07:31 PM
File. How come they aren't mentioned on this forum? They do remove steel rapidly, after all. I get a belt sander jones occasionally, but my klutzy history makes me leery of power tools.
Regards,
Piscator T. Luddite

Fred
02-11-2012, 07:44 PM
Because they remove too much steel, just like power tools.

ksskss
02-23-2012, 08:52 AM
And some knives are too hard for files. If you need a fine file, a sharpening steel is just that - and also something I don't use on harder knives. OK for soft steel knives used by butchers and Chinese knives like CCKs if you like that coarse of a finish. About the only files I use are some fine Japanese files for doing individual teeth on some saws.

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Ken

thombrogan
02-23-2012, 09:29 AM
The flooring section of many hardware stores sells tungsten carbide files - take that RC68 supersteels!

piscator
02-23-2012, 10:30 AM
I'll send my Kitchen Goddess to Lowes to look for these uber files because:
a) I get anxiety attacks in home improvement stores.
and
b) I am not allowed in any place that sells power tools.
Thanks, Thom,
Piscator

thombrogan
02-23-2012, 10:52 AM
You're welcome, Piscator.

And I owe you an email. :o

thombrogan
02-23-2012, 11:50 AM
If it's not too late, I'd hold off on the tungsten carbide file if VG-10 is your most troublesome alloy and stay with regular mill or bastid files. The Wolfram-clad file is very coarse and intended for shaping tiles.

boar_d_laze
02-23-2012, 02:12 PM
The biggest problem with files is the same as with "sharpening steels." It's very hard to keep a consistent bevel with a narrow contact patch.

BDL

piscator
02-23-2012, 02:17 PM
If it's not too late, I'd hold off on the tungsten carbide file if VG-10 is your most troublesome alloy and stay with regular mill or bastid files. The Wolfram-clad file is very coarse and intended for shaping tiles.
Thanks, Thom.
KG should be easy to rein in considering she in the middle of a major nap and will be busy hostessing the chess geeks tonight.
I am very disinclined to put any file to VG-10 or harder. I might try a file on the Henckels slicer and some inexpensive softer steels to save on elbow grease, mess, hassle, and wear on my more expensive grits.
Regards,
Piscator

boar_d_laze
02-23-2012, 07:55 PM
Hear now this, O foolish people, and without understanding; which have eyes, and see not; which have ears, and hear not: The frikkin' contact patch is too frikkin' small to do a good job on anything that doesn't have a $h!#load of curve.

BDL

piscator
02-24-2012, 03:48 AM
Hear now this, O foolish people, and without understanding; which have eyes, and see not; which have ears, and hear not: The frikkin' contact patch is too frikkin' small to do a good job on anything that doesn't have a $h!#load of curve.

BDL
Re: the W. Edwards Deming anecdotal citation in a related thread and the preceding Lord Kelvin quote of 1883: We, the hubristic innocents ask: Exactly how many frikks equal an adequate contact patch and how many frikkin' degrees constitute a $h!#load and how many $h!#loads make up a bombast? Plus or minus what?
Inquiring minds want to know,
Piscator

boar_d_laze
02-24-2012, 09:34 AM
Anything hand-frikkin'-operated, abrasive enough to be considered "fast," and narrower than about a frkkin' 1-1/2" is frikkin' likely to cause frikkin' problems.

That's not a frikkin' bombast, it's a frikkin' wake up call.

The frikkin' altertnative is to go ahead and put your frikkin' knife in a frikkin' vise and try to use a frikkin' file to frikkin' sharpen it and learn your own frikkin' lessons so some some other guy can frikkin' make fun of them.

Frikkin kids today.

Fuhgeddaboudid.

BDL

piscator
02-24-2012, 10:27 AM
BDL,
Point taken, taken & taken. Thanks.
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BTW/OT,
I knew a leather lunged Irish pub singer (is there any other kind?) whose theme song was "The Friggin' Falcon". I suspect that you would find it amusing.
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Here's hoping that you will upgrade your moniker to the more sensitive, euphemistic and politically correct "high function autistic".
Regards,
Piscator