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Fred
01-29-2005, 04:08 PM
I was always intimidated by the prospect of making a sourdough starter that could be used to make sourdough bread until I actually made one. The starter or "sponge" as it's called in the baking business is nothing more than a culture of yeast and bacteria in loose dough or batter.

Don't get fooled into thinking you can make a sourdough sponge with baker's yeast. You'll get a sponge after several hours of fermentation but it won't be the right kind. Sourdough is made from natural yeast and a bacterium that feeds on that yeast called Lactobacillus San Francisco. So where do you get natural yeast and this Lactobacillus? Well, it isn't hard. Here we go.

Get a glass bowl. Natural yeast don't really care for stainless steel or copper bowls so get a glass one or a ceramic one. Take about 1/2 lb of rye flour, put it in the bowl and add warm water to it until it forms a loose dough or firm batter. Cover it with plastic film and put it somewhere out of the way.

The next day, you should see bubbles forming on the top of the starter. This is a good sign. It shows you that the natural yeasts in the flour have begun to ferment some of the natural sugars in the flour. That's right, you had the yeast all along. It was right there in the flour. As the fermentation continues the yeast begin to die. The bacterium that feeds on these dead yeast is that Lactobacillus we were talking about earlier. There is some controversy about where these bacteria come from. Let's just say that if you make the starter, they will come.

On about the third day, the sponge will begin to cave in. It is time to feed it. Just add about a 1/4 cup of bread flour. You won't need any more rye. It has done its job. From now on use bread flour in your starter. Add water again to get it back to its original consistency. After about 5 days the starter is probably ready to use. It should have a somewhat alcoholic smell (caused by alcohol of course) and it should smell something like you expect sourdough bread to taste.

From now on, just replace the starter you take to make bread with more flour and water each time to replace what you took. After a few weeks the culture will become quite stable and predictable. My own culture is about a year old and behaves just like it did when it was a month old. That's all there is to soudough starter.

Some people keep their sponges in the refrigerator. I don't bother. I just keep it in the basement covered with film.

How do we use it to make sourdough bread? Pretty simple. The starter replaces the baker's yeast you would normally use to leaven the bread. If I make up a pound and a half dough, I generally add about 1/4 cup of starter in place of the yeast. I also reduce the water by a couple of ounces to keep the hydration ratio about right. Then my dough has to ferment for about 18 hours so sourdough does take some planning. The natural yeasts are much slower acting than commercial baker's yeast. So be patient. After fermentation, the dough will smell like sourdough. Just deflate it, make it up, proof it (for a couple of hours) and bake up some delicious sourdough bread.

Be sure your sponge gets a feeding at least once every other week. If you don't use any of it for a couple of weeks, just throw a little out, add some flour and water and cover it back up. That's a pretty brief description of sourdough breadmaking but it's enough to get you started. Enjoy.

Fred
02-10-2006, 05:31 PM
Bump to the top for those asking about sourdough starters.

VHo
02-11-2006, 02:00 AM
bravo fred! very interesting!

sugarbabe
02-25-2006, 01:17 PM
But what do you do about the bacteria?

sugarbabe
02-25-2006, 01:27 PM
I read it very carefully and I still want to know what do you do with the bacteria.

Kindly be a little less patronizing if you want people to like you.

Rockyroad
02-25-2006, 01:41 PM
Just keep feeding it. You always want to keep some for a starter. This is a "good" bacteria. Name it, hug it, love and cherish it. Sourdough from scartch is a very tasty bread even though someone on sugar busters or Adkins would want to avoid it like the plague.;)

sugarbabe
02-25-2006, 01:45 PM
But won't it make you sick?:confused:

Rockyroad
02-25-2006, 02:10 PM
Without getting too gross I'll make this statement: You're bowels are filled with so much bacteria they could be classified as a city.

Now, understand that bacteria in your body aids the digestive process so it's needed. Often, when you get sick, take wide spectrum anti-biotics and have the runs it's because you've lost the bacteria in your intestines due to the anti-biotics killing the "good bacteria. The Bacteria mentioned here is of the kind that is "good". It's not harmful and passes through the body easily. As a matter of fact, my mom who is an RN would make us her version of sourdough bread to get the right kind of intestinal bacterial back into our body when we were sick and had suffered that condition.:D

sugarbabe
02-25-2006, 02:15 PM
God you are gross:(

Rockyroad
02-25-2006, 02:15 PM
I like to patronize, it's nice to get patted every so often.

Oh.... you don't mean that kind of patting? *GRIN*

sugarbabe
02-25-2006, 02:19 PM
Nothing personal but you're kind of creepy

Rockyroad
02-25-2006, 02:22 PM
Duh.... you asked deary. That's simple biology. So I answered your question. You need bacteria to live. Just check their ID's to make certain they're good bacteria and not bad.

All joking aside, I hope I made it understandable. The bacteria talked about in sourdough bread won't hurt you. If anything it will help your body maintain itself.

Now for gross... I've met a few gays in the French Quarter that met that description.

Rockyroad
02-25-2006, 02:25 PM
Nothing personal but you're kind of creepy

Fanx. But I'm doing better now that the management and I have reached an accord about how I dress to report for work.

(seriously: I dress professional while on the job but rather distinctive when traveling to and fro.)

Rockyroad
02-25-2006, 02:27 PM
Look cathead, we're going to have to reach an accord here on who is "creepy". I put a lot of effort into my wardrobe, haircolor, black nailpolish, etc. I'll admit, I do have to hold back on the piercings since I'm in the kitchen and it might freak the customers if I came out with eyebrow and nasal piercings.

Rockyroad
02-25-2006, 02:29 PM
HA! Although we may have to hold this discussion later. I have to leave Lafayette now and head into N.O. since I'm working this evening. See ya'll later guys.

sugarbabe
02-25-2006, 02:31 PM
:rolleyes:

Grouch
02-25-2006, 04:51 PM
Regarding the bacteria, remember that you are killing it by baking it. On the other hand, yogurt and quality miso are meant to be eaten without over-cooking to maximize the beneficial bacteria. Don't boil your miso!

bakerbeeotch
03-12-2006, 09:34 PM
Fred,
I feed my starter once a week, but when I go to feed it, sometimes it has a darkish liquid floating on top. Do you know what this is or if it is bad?

Fred
03-13-2006, 07:04 AM
Darkish? If it is a brown color and smells ok, then it is fine. If it is streaked black then the culture never matured and you need to start over. In other words this would indicate you have the wrong bacteria.

It sounds like it is weeks old and you have been baking bread with it. If so then everything is probably fine. The culture should smell something like sourdough bread tastes with a hint of alcohol. It can have a brownish tint on the top and should be "dough" colored beneath with no streaks of color.

It is really pretty hard to destroy a culture once it has matured. They become very, very stable and predictable within a month or two and take care of any bad incoming bacteria automatically.

bakerbeeotch
03-13-2006, 10:40 PM
The starter is 3 years old and has always done this. The liquid doesn't smell bad or anything. The bread always turns out well. I used to pour it off, but now I just stir it back together when I feed it.

Fred
03-13-2006, 11:40 PM
There you go. You have a very stable culture. All is well. I have one that's about 3 years old also. It is very hearty.