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    touche.

    boy, hate to be a stupid teenager these days. your kid picked up for dui or something and get most thorough exam of life.
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    This kind of thing would once have been deemed unconstitutional... hah.

    Of course, the Bill of Rights is now largely meaningless since the Executive captured the Supreme Court and the both of them trashed the Constitution. Any Amendment with a numerical designation greater than "2nd" is largely meaningless unless you're a large corporation... or your surname begins with 'Ko..' and ends with '..ch'.
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    Someone's been doing his homework. The first two of those amendments are similarly meaningless as well because they rely on the very groups that violate those laws to also uphold them.

    The two brothers with such a last name are currently fighting for control of the think tank they founded and funded though its existence was merely to oppose some, but not all, encroachments on the liberties of peoples both domestic and foreign. It's shook a bunch of weevils out of the rug as it were and cleared up the previously inexplicable.
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    Most contraband is smuggled in by the corrections staff so I would think it wise to conduct full body cavity searches on the personnel at shift change.

    I suppose the Court considered that given the police state we live in most Americans stuff weapons, cell phones, maybe a ham sandwich up their a** in case they encounter a police officer or a TSA roadblock.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Chef Francis View Post
    OK. This is from the first story that I read, from CNN:



    I'm trying to figure out why this guy had to go through what he did in the first place. I don't know, I could be wrong, but aren't there much more heinous criminals needing to be locked up in New Jersey than a guy who may or may not have paid a fine? Just how difficult would it have been to check out the validity of the explanation letter the guy had? If nothing more, it has to be cheaper. All of everything going on here is being paid for by tax-paying citizens.
    As a Law Enforcement Officer in NJ, I can address much of this. I understand what you are saying, however there are many reasons and factors that come into play here. Just because an infraction is minor, does not mean the person isnt a criminal. Many times a big time criminal is first taken into custody on a much smaller crime. Yes there are plenty of much more heinous criminals that need to be locked up, however once we see someone has an open warrant, we are legally obligated to take them into custody. If we fail to do so, we can be held liable. That can lead to anything from a civil suit, firing, criminal action, suspension and the like. A far as checking out the validity of the warrant, I am 100% sure he did, in the system that we use. We dont have time and in some cases access to someone at the court house to possibly further check. I DO realize this is a case of human error, but it is not on the cop in question. Some civilian court clerk screwed this one up.
    On the topic of searches, I have found or been witness to finding: knives, drugs, cough medicine, guns, pills, cell phones, and much more. I have seen drugs hidden under a baby in their baby seat. As for why he was searched at both facilities, we are required by policy to do so. If we didnt search someone, we have to. Anytime I take custody of someone, I MUST search them.

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    I understand my father was a police officer back in the 60's-70's during the race riots and the heavy drug use (LSD) (pcp) and I remember the stories of things fhat happened when espicLly if he was training a new rookie things can go wrong and missed. He let a rookie cut is chops one nite and let him pat him down and my dad said is he clear rookie said yep, my dad had a gut feeling and their was a 22 in his underwear. They didn't have glass between the criminal and the police back than.
    Makes u think. Peace jmbullman

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    About 3 years ago we arrested a petite woman, barely 20, about 5'3" and 110 lbs. Her parents yelled at us about needing 10 people to arrest a little girl. Meanwhile, she was a member of the Black Gorillas, and had an AK 47 in her room. One cannot be too careful.

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