Why is there so much neg about Shun Pro?

[akilia]

I have asked for and received much advice on this forum. All of it has been offered in good faith and best of intentions.

Some of it I have weighed up, and on other (most) occasions, I have simply followed blindly because I did not have the foundational knowledge to adequately assess the merits of the advice.

I have to say that most times, overwhelmingly, the advice has been spot on. Especially from the established members.

On another note, I personally find it a little irritating when threads or posts are made solely with the intention of validating or confirming the OP's already entrenched preferences or prejudices rather than for the purpose of eliciting information, opinion or knowledge.

This is when the OP has nothing to add and is unwilling to learn.

I've never owned or used a Shun. I may have picked up a Classic chef's at a store here in Australia and I think I found it heavy. Most of all, I found it overpriced at around US$220-230. This is also my beef with Global; their knives are competitively priced but they hoodwink their customers on stones and other massively overpriced accessories, eg: USE ONLY GLOBAL STONES, SHARPENERS AND RODS OR THE EARTH WILL OPEN UP AND SWALLOW YOU WHOLE!!!!!!!!!

Don't be so rude. And why don't you read my post before replying.
I am asking for reasoned views, not opinionated rhetoric.

[Seb]

Don't be so rude. And why don't you read my post before replying.
I am asking for reasoned views, not opinionated rhetoric.

Welcome back!!!!

[akilia]

Yanagiba are never 15*, sorry.

Wrong wrong wrong.
Ok Shun pro is 16* if that's what u mean.

[el pescador]

Its not that shun knives are bad, its just that there are better knives out the in the opinion of many people on the board. Throw out the age old question as to which gyuto is the best and you'll get just as spirited a response. To me, Shun is corporate...my J-knives are made in small shops by guys that have been doing it for years. Shun, in my mind, is no different than ZH or any of the other german makes, just japanese. They make some good knives I have a paring knife that I really like. But its a tool, not work from craftsmen. I busted out my Hiromoto AS 240mm gyuto and have been using it all week. the blade is awesome the geometry is great. the handle sucks and the fit and finish is horrible. This knife would never have made it out of QA at shun. Our knives have soul. Shun knives are a shiny Disney'ed corporate version of a j knife. They look great and impress people who don't know any better.

Some people get it...and some people don't

Pesky

[Seb]

I'd be happy to have a Shun. It's just that I only want to pay $95 for it. It's just that I take offence at being told that I gotta pay extra for that fancy, crappy 'Damascus' cladding which I regard as utterly useless or for that special handle they got going there. End of the day, there are lots of cladded VG-10 knives out there that don't try and play you with that Corporate Spiel.

[akilia]

I'd be happy to have a Shun. It's just that I only want to pay $95 for it. It's just that I take offence at being told that I gotta pay extra for that fancy, crappy 'Damascus' cladding which I regard as utterly useless or for that special handle they got going there. End of the day, there are lots of cladded VG-10 knives out there that don't try and play you with that Corporate Spiel.

Shun pro is not clad.

[Seb]

Hostile, aren't we?

The comments are generally directed at the question of why the Shun brand is met with reservation if not scorn in knife-fancying circles. But you already knew that, didn't you?

And the general consensus has been that you are resistant to advice that you don't like the sound of, to which you respond with unadorned peevishness and gnashing of teeth, which are unusual qualities to be found in a supplicant such as yourself at the Fount of Knowledge (ie KCMA and others). So you will understand when others intimate that your tone and manner come across as tedious and unbecoming in One Seeking Knowledge.

As requested, I attempted to refrain from 'opinionated rhetoric'. Sorry about the lecture, though.

[kcma]

There are no bad knife, car, food, cloth, or anything. Just stuff too $$$. A new BMW for 35k is not a bad price. A 15 yrs old civic for 15k is too $$$$

if these shuns are $50 toy knives. Great. But when they cost more than a #2 aoko tanaka, it's stupid.

[Seb]

If the OP just has to have a Shun, then he should have one. 'nuff said!

[kcma]

He has to buy it buy it. But he's pretending to be soliciting advice and opinion and backlash with ppl providing honest feelings. So...